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Justine Eckhaut

Pianist
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You are very active in the world of Lied: how would you define the pianist’s role in this repertoire?
Pianist and singer work within a true chamber music dynamic. While the singer carries the text and the melodic line, the pianist is not limited to a harmonic or rhythmic role: they also construct a dramaturgical space. The movement of a forest, the rolling of the sea, an underlying tension, a discreet irony: the accompaniment often allows one to express what the singer cannot formulate, or sometimes even to contradict them.

As a Lied pianist, I am at once a chamber music partner, conductor and stage director. I really enjoy this supporting position in the shadows. The books of Gerald Moore have accompanied me enormously in this reflection, with magnificent humour and intelligence.

How does the text influence the way you play as a pianist?
The poem is absolutely central for me. Even before working on sound, I am fascinated by the way a composer uses a text: do they follow its structure, its form? do they repeat certain verses to turn them into a refrain? do they compose from the meaning or the musicality of the words?

At the moment, I am particularly interested in absences. Passages removed from a poem are sometimes just as revealing as those kept by the composer. Schubert, for example, removes the final stanza of Die Forelle by Schubart, and Schumann chooses not to set the final poem of Frauenliebe und -leben to music. These silences are very revealing.
More generally, the presence of a text shapes and makes the vocal line living and organic. It is very inspiring when one also wants to sing at the piano! Beyond the text, I would say that collaborating with singers has truly taught me how to breathe and how to be aware of my body.

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What, in your opinion, makes a singer–pianist duo truly work?
Trust and mutual listening!

Concerts are magnificent moments, but also moments of great vulnerability. Something unexpected always happens on stage, despite rehearsals. A tempo becomes more flexible with adrenaline, a consonant takes on more weight, one suddenly adds a breath… It is precisely this element of unpredictability that makes a concert living and unique. Going on stage knowing that the other person will listen to every variation, react to it, even play with it sometimes, creates immense freedom.
It is this shared vulnerability that creates a true duo.

Your activity teaching Lied at the HMDK in Stuttgart occupies an important place: could you tell us about it?
It is an immense joy for me to have been able, for the past few months, to accompany students within such a prestigious institution. I am lucky to work exclusively with duos, therefore truly within a chamber music context where both musicians are responsible for all interpretative questions. In other German universities, the Lied teacher is often expected to play themselves with the singer, and I find this configuration of duo + teacher much more enriching for the students because I do not project my imagination, my vision.
The three of us can observe and vary the influence of tempo, of different intentions and interpretations on the musical result, imagine an orchestration in order to refine the texture of the accompaniment, discuss the meaning of a line of poetry and its resonance today. This new generation of students is very curious, it seems to me, even more interested than mine was in moving beyond conventions and also exploring repertoires off the beaten track. Our discussions are fascinating and inspiring.
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How does this pedagogical work fit into your overall artistic identity?
This work is like a catalyst for inspiration and imagination.
I do not think there is any fundamentally wrong interpretation of the meaning of a poem; the possibilities are infinite. The extremely varied settings by many composers of the same poem as short as Goethe’s Über allen Gipfeln ist Ruh’ is proof enough of that. When one begins to associate Lieder together to create programmes, the possibilities for juxtaposing pieces become endless.
Explaining gestures, accompanying my students as they explore new sonorities, trying to develop inner listening and listening to the other, helping them choose an interpretation in full awareness all help me recover that lucidity in my own playing.
I discover and rediscover a great deal of repertoire with my students: pieces, composers, poets I did not know, cycles I have not yet performed. These sessions remind me of the importance of humility and of the need to return incessantly to the score. The answer to most of our questions can be found there.
I also happily relive the total and precious freedom of those years of study, the possibility of playing absolutely whatever one desires, and of regularly having access to a platform with a benevolent audience. My festival berlied is an attempt to revive this freedom again and again.
You founded the berlied festival in Berlin: what made you want to create your own artistic space?

I founded this festival six years ago, during the Covid pandemic. In the absence of live performances and packed concert halls, I dreamed of a platform that would allow us to experiment with concert forms, interdisciplinarity, and to bring lesser-known repertoires to audiences, to raise awareness of political themes (global warming, feminism, queer issues), and to give more visibility to music composed by women and/or set to poems by women.
We are now a team of three women fully in charge of the project. This year, we will perform the complete works for voice and piano by the Berlin composer Ursula Mamlok, and invite our audience to rediscover the work of Oscar Posa.
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What does taking charge of a project like this involve, beyond the music?
Transversality. First of all, this project has given me enormously valuable creative tools: thinking together with our graphic designer about a visual identity, producing videos, creating a campaign that speaks to all generations, designing programming that is not redundant and that surprises from one year to the next, reflecting on the place of this festival within a Berlin artistic world that is both so abundant and kaleidoscopic.

Then, finding myself “on the other side” has taught me a great deal about the reality of the music industry today. Where does a festival’s funding come from? What proportion of the overall budget comes from ticket sales? What makes one invite a duo after an unsolicited application? How does one choose a venue? What brings audiences in? The way I address presenters has completely changed since then.

What does being an artist mean to you today?
We need living art more than ever.
Rather than speaking about my own experience, I would rather tell two anecdotes which seem meaningful to me.
A few years ago, I performed a recital in Bavaria with my friend, the bass Frédéric Jost, a very virtuosic programme of German Romantic ballads. A very old man came to see us at the end of the concert, hunched over, moving very slowly with crutches. He looked up at us with very lively eyes and told us that hearing us play like that, sometimes so fast and with such passion, had, for the space of an hour, given him the feeling that he could dance again.

I regularly perform with the KNM, a contemporary music ensemble in Berlin. This ensemble hosted the Kyiv Contemporary Days festival in Berlin in 2023 because it obviously could not take place in Ukraine. I asked the Ukrainian musicians and invited composers about their activities, their fears, their possibilities of travelling, and they told me that since the beginning of the war there had been concerts every day in Kyiv. It was unthinkable not to continue playing in such circumstances.

What are your upcoming projects?
In a few days, the first Lied masterclass organised by my festival berlied for singer–pianist duos will take place, which I will lead together with the soprano Roberta Cunningham: a lovely way of bringing together all my activities!
Otherwise, I will return to the Heidelberger Frühling in June to celebrate the opening of the Lied festival while also paying tribute to Thomas Hampson on the occasion of his birthday. This festival welcomed me as an academy participant six years ago and I learned an enormous amount there, especially about Schubert’s Lieder.
In October, before the 5th edition of berlied, the first recording by my trio Dara, London Fog, will be released on the Aparté label, with an English programme that is very close to our hearts!
21/05/2026